ZG advice

[Myzerie]

I've watched Valic run with yall many times in ZG and have had the opportunity to run with yall. The speed and ease you fly thru that instance at is impressive.

I've begun taking my guild into ZG and we can't seem to down any boss except the snake. Is there any advice you can offer that might allow us to take down the bat boss easier and possibly the raptor? We are going again on Friday and I would love to go in and possibly be able to take down 3 bosses instead of our usual 1.

[Quick]

I recommend going to http://www.wowwiki.com/Zul'Gurub and reading up on the bosses, trash, and the strats.

Also, you should get the mod called BigWigs, which is a boss mod that gives you warnings/timers/etc.

[Helenae]

Gear and talent helps a lot.

I usually run head long into mobs with no concern for the rest of the raid. (in ZG) And can always rely on my healers watching me and landing fat heals.

Them being on the ball 100%, great talent, and both our gear helps tremendously.

I would never do that in a PUG because invariably the healers and the rest of the raid are afk or not paying attention.

[Scooge]

I usually run head long into mobs with no concern for the rest of the raid. (in ZG) And can always rely on my healers watching me and landing fat heals.


Yes, we know.

[Lex]

Yes, we know.

yeah...fun times

[Deathknell]

Bat boss - Frost nova and AoE the bat spawns, and even pull rogues/warriors off her to help with them if need be. Bomb bats - stick and move. Move out of the fire ASAP, even if you're the tank, or you're dead. Get CTRA BossMod, rogues need to KICK her when she's in troll form as she's casting heal, or your raid isn't going to outlast her.

[DrHealGood]

What does Fight have that other guilds do not? Three letters...

D
H
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[Grogan]

Bat boss - Frost nova and AoE the bat spawns, and even pull rogues/warriors off her to help with them if need be. Bomb bats - stick and move. Move out of the fire ASAP, even if you're the tank, or you're dead. Get CTRA BossMod, rogues need to KICK her when she's in troll form as she's casting heal, or your raid isn't going to outlast her.

Priest perspective on that, ensure you aren't caught in flames, spacing is critical, and keep mages shielded and alive as they burn through bats faster when not dead.

I try to keep dots on the boss, as well, and have time to regen in between bat runs.

[Deval]

I like to flash of light alot.

[Aias]

I like to flash of light alot.

Werd, pallies swinging big orange hammers are bad for the raid.

[Myzerie]

thanks for all of the advice! I'm hoping to have a successful run this Friday and would be content to down at least 2 since that would be one more then last time. lol I'd prefer more but beginners can't always have what they want. :)

No DHG, we don't have you but one day I'll have my priest to 60 and she'll be even better! :cool: Course you know I'm teasing ya! Nothing but <3 for you :)

Myz

[Mocker]

and keep mages shielded and alive as they burn through bats faster when not dead.

It's pretty funny how well that works.

[Myzerie]

It's pretty funny how well that works.

The last time we tried that bat, I had people yelling at the 3 of us (mages) because we were not CS'ing the boss. Here we are getting our butts kicked while not a single priest healed us. Not even a pally or druid, and it was our fault she healed. :down: Not to mention the fact that most of the time we couldn't survive past the first swarm of bats due to limited help from anyone else with killing her.

I'm going to take control of leading this time. I think thru the advice gotten here, the things I've read, I can get us thru her. And if we don't, well, there better be a damn good reason.

[Deathknell]

The last time we tried that bat, I had people yelling at the 3 of us (mages) because we were not CS'ing the boss. Here we are getting our butts kicked while not a single priest healed us. Not even a pally or druid, and it was our fault she healed. :down: Not to mention the fact that most of the time we couldn't survive past the first swarm of bats due to limited help from anyone else with killing her.

I'm going to take control of leading this time. I think thru the advice gotten here, the things I've read, I can get us thru her. And if we don't, well, there better be a damn good reason.

Rogues can kick the boss, so let them do it. Screw CSing her, just worry about the bat spawns and then dps on the boss. :D

[Andilith]

Yeah, teamwork tends to help in raids.

[Helenae]

yeah...fun times
-Waiting on buffs?
-NO BUFFS, PULL. (WHOOSH sound of tera hitting charge)

[Deathknell]

So how did your ZG raid do on Friday?

[Myzerie]

As always, we downed the snake. Then we got to the bat and people got a bit over zealous. attempt 2 got her to 30%, a wipe started and a warlock kindly brought out his infernal. Decided to make another go of it. I said, if we can take her down to 30% we can take her down to 0. Tried again and that is when things just didn't go well. Tank called her down and next thing I know all locks instantly dotted her.

Taking another shot on Friday. We did 67% two weeks ago, 30% last friday. Shooting for a complete kill on her or at least lower then the last two attempts.

We've gotten a fun little coalition going so hopefully we can get much more experience.

[Skaught]

Infernal out of left field.

Hmm, that might be kinda fun....random spawn infernal.

[Deathknell]

As always, we downed the snake. Then we got to the bat and people got a bit over zealous. attempt 2 got her to 30%, a wipe started and a warlock kindly brought out his infernal. Decided to make another go of it. I said, if we can take her down to 30% we can take her down to 0. Tried again and that is when things just didn't go well. Tank called her down and next thing I know all locks instantly dotted her.

Taking another shot on Friday. We did 67% two weeks ago, 30% last friday. Shooting for a complete kill on her or at least lower then the last two attempts.

We've gotten a fun little coalition going so hopefully we can get much more experience.
Make a rule. Tell everyone "Absolutely NO DPS until 3,4, or 5 sunders." You pick the number. That seems to work pretty well after you know everyone's paying attention.

[Myzerie]

I had been keeping that clear from the start but that go I wasn't thinking and just had the tank pull and it was over before it started.

I need to find out the days it resets so that, if possible, we can do a practice run on her. I know most of us would do it so it would be fun to try :)

[Oogiee]

Two words: Bring Gnomes

Gnomes = Victory


Oog

[Myzerie]

Two words: Bring Gnomes

Gnomes = Victory


Oog

So that was the problem. I only had one gnome this time and she is a rogue. Hmmmm. Will have to remember to bring along my pack gnomes next time and I'll bet we do it! Woot!

Myz

[Gimble]

Gnomes dying also usually means phat loot. Helps to have a designated gnome for this, that way there is someone to directly blame when the desired loot does not drop.

[Oogiee]

Of note, when gnomes are in short supply your next best option is dwarf priest. Followed by dwarf pallies and then dwarf hunters, but only if the hunters is named Lokes. Everyone else who is not a gnome or a rogue is pretty much dead weight and should have to pay you to come along.


Oog

[DrHealGood]

Of note, when gnomes are in short supply your next best option is dwarf priest. Followed by dwarf pallies and then dwarf hunters, but only if the hunters is named Lokes. Everyone else who is not a gnome or a rogue is pretty much dead weight and should have to pay you to come along.


Oog

I do not approve of your post Oogiee. You will be sacrificed to Kel'Thuzad this week.

[Myzerie]

Well, we managed to down the bat boss. Don't know if I should attribute it to the 4 T2 geared people with us. Or if because they were with us it gave the members the extra push to work hard and beat her. Either way, we did it! Now for the raptor guy. If we can just get people to understand with him :)

[Etherin]

Myz - http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4356-1-bigwigs-bossmods.html

Get it. Enable announcements.

[Grogan]

yeah! The boss mods make such a difference.